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Is it me?

Am I the only person who *doesn't* think Cowley's line about, "From then on, you're The Bisto Kids," (Old Dog with New Tricks) has anything to do with inseparability?

Look at the next line, "The faintest whiff of anything..." (my emphasis). The most notable feature of The Bisto Kids (to my mind) is their noses in the air, sniffing hard for that "Aaaaah! Bisto!" aroma. (Like Cowley's instructions to Bodie and Doyle - thank God they were paired long before portmanteau names - in Stakeout, "That's your job! Sniff hard. Be alert.")

In one of Enid Blyton's school stories, even, the twins in it only get dubbed "The Bisto Twins" when they lift their heads and sniff, trying to tell what is for dinner. And it is described as the character who so dubbed them (Alicia? IIRC?) "hitting the nail on the head, as usual."

Is it me?

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moonlightmead
Apr. 4th, 2014 09:58 pm (UTC)
No, I agree entirely. The Bisto twins are shown sniffing and following the smell back to the source. (Or sauce, in the advert, I suppose :))

And so that's what CI5 agents are supposed to do. Sniff out the trail of (eg) corruption, drugs or dodgy dealings, and follow it backwards until they find the bad guys.

Nothing to do with Bodie and Doyle as people. Just the job of all the agents.

(And hee, I had totally forgotten that reference, but it rings a bell now, yes!)
natsuko1978
Apr. 4th, 2014 10:13 pm (UTC)
Oh good. To be honest there's rather a lot in Pros fanon/fan-fiction that leaves me a little bewildered, but that in particular just seems that an awful lot of people missed the point.

I'm going to respond to your "Social Attitues" post, but probably here because of slightly tangential thoughts.
moonlightmead
Apr. 8th, 2014 09:45 am (UTC)
I well remember similar bewilderment when I dived into Pros fandom. I wish I'd written those initial impressions down. I think I still have a partial list - I'll dust them off and post them one day.

No hurry on the other post - I haven't responded myself (net time limited atm)
byslantedlight
Aug. 7th, 2014 12:02 pm (UTC)
It's lunchbreak, and I've popped over to see who you are(*g*) cos I think we've just recently come across each other, and found this.

I absolutely think it's to do with inseparability, purely because of the context of Cowley's speech. Although yes, he does next say "the slightest whiff" (as in the Bisto Kids), before that he begins the sentence by saying telling the new agents that they'll be paired off. You'll be paired off, and from then on, you're the Bisto Kids. The slightest whiff of anything and you move in. So... yeah, the reference has to have something to do with the agents working in inseparable pairs (like the Bisto Kids) - and then Cowley goes on to extend the metaphor... Of course, as you've no doubt seen a thousand times by now, fandom does tend to latch onto things and then run and run and run and fall to the ground and drag itself, elbows scraping the dirt on the littlest bits of fanon. (Bodie eats Swiss roll once. Once! *g*)

But it's fun thinking about things like that, and I haven't for ages... *g*
natsuko1978
Aug. 7th, 2014 04:32 pm (UTC)
Hello!
It's lunchbreak, and I've popped over to see who you are(*g*) cos I think we've just recently come across each other, and found this.

I watched Pros as a kid - especially because I had a brother who loved the stunt driving - and then started to watch regularly and repeatedly on ITV4.

Last year I had an idea for an Older Lads crossover with BBC Sherlock (that DI Greg Lestrade and former Army Captain Dr John Watson get recruited into the modern day CI5 by Mycroft while Sherlock is dead/missing) and started researching Pros and reading fic. (I also toyed with the idea of doing something with New Tricks plus Sherlock and/or plus Pros and still think Older Lads and the Met's UCOS (original team) could be interesting. Or dropping a *young* Gerry, Jack or Brian into a 1980s Lads story, even as a walk-on.)

Having been disappointed by Series 3 of Sherlock I decided to forget the crossover (and indeed my Sherlock WIPs) and sign up for the Big Bang. I am still very much a newbie to the fandom and still finding my way around comms, fics and authors/fans.

I've posted quite a few ponderings/wonderings here so far - being so late to the party I don't feel confident in posting them to the comms when people probably thought and talked about it all years ago. :)

Thanks for commenting. I hope you have something to add to any of my other posts - I'd be interested in your thoughts and opinions. :D

It does get me how fanon in this fandom so often starts from a single instance, as I said over in our exchange at the_safehouse. I suppose it's partly to do with the lack of continuity *between* episodes, the way even significant events (like Coogan's death in custody or Doyle's shooting) will never be referred to again in canon, and (other than Murphy and Benny - oh and Jax was in 2!) the other agents in CI5 often appear in only a single episode, and such, leaving the fanbase to create its own continuity and relationships between the agents (creating tropes like Anson being a bit of a git and a bit hostile to Bodie and Doyle, or indeed Bodie and Swiss Roll, etc). I always wished that Tommy McKay and Barry Martin - just for two - had been established outside of their single episodes.
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