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Since Th'y'la just linked to this post, I thought I'd start with an "Is it me?"

Her interpretation of the exchange of looks and, "All right, I'll give you that one," near the end of You'll Be All Right (I had an English teacher who had fits whenever anyone wrote "alright" or "alot" so, sorry, Mrs Gwilliams trumps canon ETA: canon was right, disc-listing was wrong, my bad), when Jack Stone comes home to his family and asks if he can say goodbye, is that Doyle is telling Bodie he's also soft (as Bodie and Cowley have just called Doyle) and Bodie grants it.

To me, isn't it more Doyle saying, "See, told you he'd be back here - don't question my grasp of psychology!"? Yes? No? Discuss?

(Also, isn't Doyle's "Don't worry, we weren't thinking of renting it," about the uncleaned bedsit in Discovered in a Graveyard a typically Doylian joke?)

Doyle's hot drink habits. I've seen people talk about his "inconsistancy" - but is it?

In Look After Annie (S1) (the wonder tea scene with Charlie) he adds several spoonfuls of sugar to his tea, but no milk (but does milk Bodie's cuppa, even if it isn't quite enough - as someone who drinks tea and coffee black, I often find myself looking at Bodie/Lew's tea (like that photo of him at the piano with the Carling cans on it) and wondering why he doesn't just drink milk and skip the tea bit). Whatever Doyle drinks in bed in When the Heat Cools Off (cocoa?) looks milky, but the colour of the mug makes it hard to tell.

In Dead Reckoning (S3) he adds whatever's left in an open sugar packet to whatever he drinks in the music college cafeteria with Anna Hastings.

In You'll Be All Right, he tells Chrissie Stone, "No milk or sugar, thanks, love."

A progression? Cutting down before cutting out? Any other examples?

I know some people who have quite different habits with milk and sugar depending on whether - and when - they are drinking coffee or tea. I sugar the first coffee of the day - and coffee I'm drinking out/in other people's houses if I don't like it (Nescafe Original or Gold Blend) - and sweeten the pot if I'm making tea (like using a pot in the first place, warming the pot and using boiling water it does something to the brewing and tannins) but don't usually take sugar. I don't take milk because I'm dairy intolerant and soy-milk can split/curdle in hot drinks. My dad drinks tea with only the pot-sweetening and a teaspoon of milk (people who know him well ask my Mum to make his tea even in their houses!) but coffee ludicrously sweet and milky - but is consistant in that.


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Nov. 18th, 2014 11:44 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I've always interpreted that look in "You'll Be All Right" as more of a "See?" than anything else, although I rather like her interpretation. *g* I do agree that there's something for much speculation in their looks during/after the kiss, however. That's always struck me as them having a silent communication about understanding the passion in the goodbye kiss. Or some such. *g*

And I"ll agree it's Doyle's style of humor/sarcasm in DIAG.

And also about Doyle's progression with tea. Remember in "No Stone" there's this exchange, when Bodie brings his own cup of tea in:

DOYLE: Is that for me?

BODIE: It's got sugar in it.

And then Doyle drinks it anyway. I'd say he's cutting back on sugar, it appears. Whether it will stick or not is up to us. *g*
Nov. 19th, 2014 12:17 am (UTC)
Thank you - it's always nice when established people agree with My Interpretation. :D I do like her take on the reflections between Chrissie/Jack and Bodie/Doyle, but sometimes I think she sees - or doesn't see - gay subtext which I don't. And I'm never sure if it's just me... or what. Since from her spelling she's not British, I do sometimes wonder if it is that difference between us. Or just different mindsets. I do get a bit... puzzled when I see things in a totally different way (see "The Bisto kids").

They do have entire conversations in looks - and subtext! remember the gay rats exchange in "No Stone"? - don't they? Which is, I guess, what has made them such a rich vein for ficcers for 37 years!

And thanks for the additional example. :D

(Talking of examples and discussions, did you get a chance to read: http://natsuko1978.livejournal.com/152281.html - I'd be veryinterested in anything you have to add to my comment-discussion with Mead. If you have the time or inclination, of course.)
Nov. 19th, 2014 12:59 am (UTC)
It's "All Right" in the screen title.
Nov. 19th, 2014 01:07 am (UTC)
Huh. And yet not on the disc or ITV listings. My bad. :)

I apologise.

Edited at 2014-11-19 01:25 am (UTC)
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